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Old Nov 22, 2006, 07:32 PM // 19:32   #61
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We give young kids a bad name because we don't want to admit that the problem might be in our age-group. You'd most likely find that those claiming 12-14yr olds are the ones at fault are adults over 20-25.
Very true. Most of the more offensive language comes from the 25-35 year olds. The kids are out playing the game.
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Old Nov 22, 2006, 07:35 PM // 19:35   #62
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Abuse wouldn't be an issue it would be THE issue. So many run around pixel land on a power trip now. I would hate to think if they could actually get someone banned. There would be nothing to stop them from grinding a personal axe. Anet won't pay for someone to babysit the babysitters.
You are right, leprekan. I am too much of an optimist, i guess, to think it could work. Personal vendettas are something I did not think over.


I wonder what happened to games being just for fun? Most online games come to mirror reality far too much considering they are just games.
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Old Nov 22, 2006, 08:34 PM // 20:34   #63
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First, hello everyone. I am a long time reader of these forums and have been playing Guild Wars for a long time now. For those of you wondering about my misspelling of the avatar, I am a long time real time strategy/turn based strategy player.

That said, I have noticed the community of Guild Wars is rather immoral in play compared to RTS and other games I have played online. Now, I am not a die hard online mmo player so I have little to compare this game's community, but the language, put downs, and other uncivil behavior is very prevalent. I understand it is a game full of children and teenagers; however, the behavior is quit intolerable for something that is meant to be fun.

My Pvp experience has been even more sour than pve; something about competition brings out dishonorable behavior beyond the normal trash talk.

So what experiences have you had with the community? Have any of you had an overall uncivil experience as I have or have I just been unlucky?

Apologies for not searching for a thread about this- the search function does not work in any of my browsers (I run Internet Explorer 6.0-7, Firefox 2.0, and Opera. I still cant figure out why this forum and others do not search etc for me with scripting turned on in each browser).
Well i have some MMO experience and i can tell you that Guild Wars has by far the worst community ive seen.

Other MMO's have these kind of people to but there arnt many of them, i have noticed that in simple games like Guild Wars and WoW, the community is worse then when the game is very complicated.

This is the only game however, where most of the playerbase is made up of these people, or if there is another game ( not including runescape, i think we all know what its like there) i havnt seen it.

My experience with the community is horrible, absolutely horrible, god bless the day i run into a nice soul, or even someone willing to talk!If there not LFG'ing or selling sompthing or trying to recruit i hardly hear any talk!
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Old Nov 22, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49   #64
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You are right, leprekan. I am too much of an optimist, i guess, to think it could work. Personal vendettas are something I did not think over.


I wonder what happened to games being just for fun? Most online games come to mirror reality far too much considering they are just games.
It is sad that the game has actually gotten to the point it is. The fix will come from within but I won't hold my breath waiting for it. Always keep in mind the wanna be Ethug is the kid getting his ass kicked in school .. it helps If they were bright enough to understand that acting tough in a game shows just how lame they MUST be in the real world perhaps they would settle down. Do like I do and reward people you see doing kind acts for no reason other than helping. Yes, it is kind of pathetic that things are bad enough that I feel compelled to give plats to people I see helping others but at least they know someone appreciates what they are doing then.
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Old Nov 22, 2006, 09:06 PM // 21:06   #65
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It seems to me, the solution is easy. GW needs to have moderators for all chats. Now that said, it would not be easy to implement or maintain. That coupled with the business model of gw being spend as little as possible to maximize revenue. i.e no live help desk, etc.. I really think if they (gw/anet) were pushed to really curb the language etc in game, they would op to shut the game down or add a monthly fee. As is, they rely on us to police their game, answer their support questions and do all this mind you for free (no pay), and paying for the privelege of doing so by buying the game.

Pretty slick concept don't ya think? They make millions we deal with the headaches. What a country..
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Old Nov 22, 2006, 10:02 PM // 22:02   #66
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It seems to me, the solution is easy. GW needs to have moderators for all chats. Now that said, it would not be easy to implement or maintain. That coupled with the business model of gw being spend as little as possible to maximize revenue. i.e no live help desk, etc.. I really think if they (gw/anet) were pushed to really curb the language etc in game, they would op to shut the game down or add a monthly fee. As is, they rely on us to police their game, answer their support questions and do all this mind you for free (no pay), and paying for the privelege of doing so by buying the game.

Pretty slick concept don't ya think? They make millions we deal with the headaches. What a country..
Anarchy!Yay!

Ok seriously though you dont HAVE to police the game or instruct the players, i dont know why A-net dous not have people policing the game, maybe becuase they dont have a steady income so they cant spend alot, however they cant police anymore: If they would ban everyone who is being abusive or displaying bad behaviour there wouldnt be alot of players left, youd be bannign a major part of the community, sad but true i think!

I must say though that moderators wont make the problems vanish either, and theres no guarantee the moderators will do a good job.

Oh and adding a monthly fee = suicide. No offense but Guild Wars is of considerably lower quality then other MMO's, or has other factors that make it unattractive, the reason Guild Wars has been somewhat succesfull is that it dous not have a monthly fee, adding a monthly fee is asking for trouble.
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Old Nov 22, 2006, 11:35 PM // 23:35   #67
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Unfotunatelly the 'new generation' problem is not only in my country. Kids nowdays do nothing for themselves - just playing some games and even doing it for fun but to release their negative emotions threw it by abusing the system and the anononimity. Of course there are a lot mature players that do not let such primal thing to influence them and it is a lot of fun to cooperate and play with them.
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Old Nov 23, 2006, 08:34 AM // 08:34   #68
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Kids are fine, but when they are allowed to play unmoderated eventually their bad side will shine through. (not my son though, hes an Angel )

I realize that kids are smarter, and more tech savy these days, but they're still kids and the inappropriate behaviors that have been suppressed all of their lives are Begging to come forth.

To the other grown ups out there, don't you remember when you got older and was finally, finally able to get out away from your parents and say your first few bad words? I imagine that most of the kids we see out there using foul language are doing exactly that, except they have a new, anonymous venue to do so.

The adults out there that are doing this should set a better example and not tolerate this behavior when we see it in the game. Who knows? These kids may be as young as eight or nine and never have started this behavior for a few years to come without our poor "adult" examples.
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Old Nov 23, 2006, 11:09 AM // 11:09   #69
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There not kids anymore though, cant realy stop them..not anymore, to many of em.

But being intolerant..that would be fun, flame wars:Return of the mannered ones! (/joke)
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